Archive for June, 2007

The relative poverty of the most important creationist and ID organizations

Friday, June 29th, 2007

Jim Lippard (who is no friend of ID) made an analysis of creationist and ID organization finances here: Creationist finances: some conclusions.

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The Five Reasons Galaxies Can’t Exist

Thursday, June 28th, 2007

In this post, one of our readers, Benkeshet ask about James Trefil’s chapter entitled: “The Five Reasons Galaxies Can’t Exist”. It was chapter 4 of The Dark Side of the Universe. Trefil, an opponent of ID, actually did much work that unwittingly led to the ID-friendly Privileged Planet hypothesis and unwittingly led to various YEC cosmologies!!!! He writes:

The problem of explaining the existence of galaxies has proved to be one of the thorniest in cosmology. By all rights, they just shouldn’t be there, yet there they sit. It’s hard to convey the depth of frustration that this simple fact induces among scientists.

Trefil, The Dark Side of the Universe, p. 55.

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Another paradigm on the brink of extinction? Mantle plume theory in crisis

Wednesday, June 27th, 2007

Elementary and High School texts describe the origin of lava as pictured below. The books present the origin of lava as the result of mantle plumes, where hot rocks move all the way from the molten earth’s core to the surface. The transport time is something on the order of 30 million years. Does that sound believable that a temperature differential could be sustained for that long? Some geophysicists have finally revolted and said the textbooks are wrong.

Many readers may not realize, that no one has drilled down very far at all. The deepest drilling has only been about 14 miles down. From the surface to the Earth’s core is almost 4000 miles. We have barely scratched the surface, and we really don’t know what’s down there. On the picture below, the deepest we’ve drilled could hardly even be seen on the picture!

The demise of the mantle plume hypothesis will improve the chances of various YEC geologies, particularly Walter Brown’s hydroplate theory. If lava flow and plate techtonics can be refuted, then there is room for YEC geology to succeed. Hydroplate theory ties current volcanic activity and lava flow to the mechanisms that caused the great flood. Plate techtonics have a passing relation to mantle plume theory, and thus the demise of plumes furthers the chances of Brown’s hydroplate theory prevailing over old Earth, plate techtonics.


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A time for war and a time for peace, ideas for civil discussion

Wednesday, June 27th, 2007

In the creation/evolution wars, there is also a time for peace. One can certainly read my polemics against evolutionary theory in the past, and one may be surprised how different my tone is at YoungCosmos. Let us recall the words of Solomon:
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Dr. Cheesman’s question about the moon, objections to YEC

Tuesday, June 26th, 2007

I would again like to thank Dr. Cheesman for participating with us. I consider him a brother, and having himself signed the Discovery Institute dissent from Darwin list, I consider him a special comrade. He forwarded the following scientific and philosophical questions concerning the moon. I post it with his permission:

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Teaching ID and Creation Science may become illegal in Europe

Tuesday, June 26th, 2007

Teaching ID = A crime against humanity

Last week, a German court sentenced a 55-year old Lutheran pastor to one year in jail for “Volksverhetzung” (incitement of the people) because he compared the killing of the unborn in contemporary Germany to the holocaust. Next week, the Council of Europe is going to vote on a resolution imposing Darwinism as Europe’s official ideology. The European governments are asked to fight the expression of creationist opinions, such as young earth and intelligent design theories. According to the Council of Europe these theories are “undemocratic” and “a threat to human rights.” . . .

(HT Bill Dembski)

Was there a Big Bang?

Friday, June 22nd, 2007

[Advanced Creation Science]
Here is a rare dissenting voice regarding the Big Bang from the Discovery Institute:

Was there a Big Bang? by David Berlinski.

NOTWITHSTANDING THE investment made by the scientific community and the general
public in contemporary cosmology, a suspicion lingers that matters do not sum up as they should. Cosmologists write as if they are quite certain of the Big Bang, yet, within the last decade, they have found it necessary to augment the standard view by
means of various new theories. These schemes are meant to solve problems that cosmologists were never at pains to acknowledge, so that today they are somewhat in the position of a physician reporting both that his patient has not been ill and that
he has been successfully revived.
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Young Galaxies imply a Young Cosmos

Friday, June 22nd, 2007

[Introductory Creation Science]
Although the existence of single young galaxy does not in and of itself prove a specially created Young Cosmos, if all the galaxies are shown to be young, even the ones which secular scientists argue are the earliest since the beginning of time, then the most natural interpretation is that the universe is young. The inference is almost inescapable.

Let’s first consider the problems of the Big Bang cosmology creating galaxies. A former professor of mine, James Trefil (no friend of ID and had debated William Dembski in 2005), had this to say about galaxies:

Five Reasons Why Galaxies Can’t Exist

The problem of explaining the existence of galaxies has proved to be one of the thorniest in cosmology. By all rights, they just shouldn’t be there, yet there they sit. It’s hard to convey the depth of frustration that this simple fact induces among scientists.

Trefil, The Dark Side of the Universe, p. 55.

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The state of the stalemate, evidence for and against YEC

Friday, June 22nd, 2007

[Introductory Creation Science]

jb asked that I post my thoughts on evidences for YEC. He asked in comment #3, Wavelength behavior at a fixed location, Jellison and Bridgman’s critique…

Maybe you could make a blog post elaborating on this in layman/popular-audience terms. What are the specific physical evidences that have moved you more toward accepting a YEC model? What are the problems you’ve identified with galactic, stellar and planetary evolution?

I will offer answers over several threads as the topic is deep. So let me introduce the topic.
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Redshift may change over time

Friday, June 22nd, 2007

[Advanced Creation Science]

Although I think YEC theory has a ways to go, there are various anomalies reported from secular quarters that continue to give hope to YEC proponents. One paper cited is a 1991 peer-reviewed paper by Tifft: Properties of the Redshift III: Temporal Variation. In this paper, Tifft argues that changes in redshifts from the same have object have been detected by historical measurements. It is like looking at an object and seeing its color change before your very eyes. This would throw some doubt on the standard interpreations of the Big Bang.

Comparisons between new 21 cm redshifts and older data, especially older 300 foot telescope data, are used to demonstrate the presence of systematic deviations, toward higher redshifts, in all the older data.

Wavelength behavior at a fixed location, Jellison and Bridgman’s critique…

Thursday, June 21st, 2007

[Advanced Creation Science]

Objectivity cannot be equated with mental blankness; rather, objectivity resides in recognizing your preferences and then subjecting them to especially harsh scrutiny — and also in a willingness to revise or abandon your theories when the tests fail (as they usually do).

— Stephen Jay Gould

[Gould was the beloved mentor of creationist Kurt Wise]

I will try to put a mix of advanced creation science with topics of interest to the general reader. YoungCosmos will be set apart from other websites in its willingness to invite and discuss serious challenges with various YEC hypotheses.

However, I recognized, exclusive focus on specialty topics will discourage interest in the website. So, I’ll try to maintain about a healthy mix of interesting topics and specialty topics. This post deals with an attempt at clarification of both Setterfield’s work and Dr. Jellison and Bridgman’s work regarding wavelength behavior with respect to time at the same general location and at various locations….
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Open thread #2…

Thursday, June 21st, 2007

The readers are invited to speak their mind freely on any topic. Within the limit of civil and polite discourse, speak freely on any topic you wish.

Nobel Laureate Albert Michelson’s speed of light measurments support YEC CDK

Wednesday, June 20th, 2007


Encyclopedia Britannica
In 1878 Michelson began work on what was to be the passion of his life, the accurate measurement of the speed of light.

One of Michelson’s last measuring devices is depicted by Barry Setterfield here:

Wherever one may stand on the cdk (slowing of light speed) issue, I thought Barry had a wonderful article on the history of speed of light measurements here: Rotating Mirror Experiments. Michelson’s measurements may have detected a slowing in the speed of light.
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A Young Cosmos and Space Travel

Tuesday, June 19th, 2007

Much of the speed of light discussion focuses on something known as Zero-Point Energy. Here is an article that explains what Zero-Point Energy is and how it might solve the world’s energy problems and take humans to the stars. It was featured in the premeire areospace journal, Aviation Week and Space Technology. Enjoy!

To the Stars.

PS
Setterfield references the work of one of the scientists, Hal Putoff, at www.Setterfield.org

Science against Evolution

Tuesday, June 19th, 2007

[Introductory Creation Science]
Here is one of the websites from where I took my first steps into creation science. It is highly entertaining: Science against Evolution.

Sample
ALL my friends with Ph.D. degrees who are college professors believe in evolution. NONE of my friends with Ph.D. degrees who work in the defense industry believe in evolution.

counter-critique of Dr. Jellison’s CDK boltzman distribution

Tuesday, June 19th, 2007

[Advanced Creation Science]
I’m opening this thread for a more detailed and mathematically rigorous discussion of the Boltzman distribution objection to CDK. This a critique of paper by Dr. Jellison introduced here. I welcome civil, academic discussion and civil treatment of the subject matter. I thank the participants in advance for their restraint in holding back their frustrations with each other. The discussion will move forward as we stick to the facts and theories.

I’d like to thank Dr. Jellison for raising important question regarding CDK which I expect many others will have and which I hope CDK supporters will consider carefully.

I would like to offer my counter-critique in defense of CDK pertaining to page 29. The traditional Boltzman distribution is:

traditional boltzman

Dr. Jellison’s interprets Boltzman under CDK to be:

jellison cdk boltzman
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Dr. Gerard Jellison’s critique of CDK

Monday, June 18th, 2007

[Advanced Creation Science]
I am great supporter of Barry Setterfield’s work. See www.Setterfield.org

Part of advancing the his work involves exposing it to scientific criticism. Though facing criticism may be difficult, if a theory is true, it will prevail in the end.

With that in mind, I present the hard work of two scientists (Jellison and Bridgman) who have written a critique of an idea I really like, namely CDK. I do not expect the discussion to be settled anytime soon, and the work of these two scientists is worthy of consideration. I’d like to thank them for making their work available online. The issues here could take years to settle, and I think it unfair to Barry to make any demands he respond anytime soon.

I must sadly assert, rather than condemning Old-Earth Creationists as being compromisers or finding flaws in OEC theology, it would be far more productive (for science and the cause of the gospel, if indeed CDK is true) to solve scientific problems such as the ones outlined by Dr. Jellison. For as long as these scientific problems linger, there will be those who will accept an Old Universe, and I for one can’t blame them…..
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YEC Resources

Monday, June 18th, 2007

I put together a resource page that contains links to various YEC-related web sites that I’ve collected, mostly from various posts on this blog. I’ll keep this updated as I learn of more (Salvador, you might want to review it from time to time to make sure you agree with linking to them, and that they are of the quality you would endorse):

http://smartaxes.com/blog/yec-resources-online/

A new journal for exploration and application of origins theories

Sunday, June 17th, 2007

I and johnnyb have interest in starting a journal which will invite critical analysis of various origins theories. More importantly, I welcome investigations toward empirical detection, industrial applications, and medical advancement. I envision as the journal evolves, it will attract better editors than myself.

Another journal (perhaps) for theology, archaeology, philosophy, and rhetoric will be in the works, since it is so much on people’s minds.

Some of us (like myself) in the creationist community would prefer a journal free of strong theological premises. For example, any statement such as, “it’s true because in Genesis it says….” would defeat the purpose of an objective scientific inquiry and would probably not be what I’d like to see in a scientific journal. Walter ReMine’s Biotic Message and Walter Brown’s Creation Science are role models in terms of scientific writing. Such a journal does not mean we have any less reverence for our beliefs.
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BSG conference, June 13-15, 2007

Saturday, June 16th, 2007

Much has been made of the Baraminology Study Group’s (BSG) activities.

In fact, the BSG’s activities have reached the very halls of the Unted States Congress and the Office of Special Council in the Richard Sternberg affair. See: www.rsternberg.net

Here are my reflections of Thursday, June 14, 2007:
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Is Biotic Message a Creationist or ID theory? And other questions…

Saturday, June 16th, 2007

This is a continuation of the discussion at Uncommon Descent. 15 June 2007
“Turbulent times in the world of phylogeny”, post #20

Dinosaurs Contemporaneous with Humans?

Thursday, June 14th, 2007

[note: this is jb writing this post, not Salvador]
A discussion started in the comments of the previous post (”more proof of the great flood”) which concerns dinosaurs. That was slightly off-topic there, so rather than continue that conversation there, it was pointed out that maybe we should start another thread to discuss it. So I’m creating this post to recap the conversation and open the floor to further discucssion.

If the YEC timeframe is correct then donosaurs must have lived at the same time as humans. This is occasionally hit upon in creationist literature from time to time, and occasionally some writers set out to demonstrate that this is indeed the case by referring to ancient art, legends, etc. which depict dinosaurs living contemporanously with humans.

Janice brought up the Ica Stones and the Acambaro Figurines. However, while I do not discount the idea that dinosaurs very well could have lived contemporaneously with humans, I am skeptical of this particular bit of evidence. I will admit, however, that I’m not in any way an expert in this area, and I could very well be all wrong. However, after reading something like this…

http://skepdic.com/icastones.html
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More proof of the great flood….

Wednesday, June 13th, 2007

Janice alerted me to this article at UD. We will talk of it more when I have time. Enjoy!

After the Flood

Whoa!

Behe Wednesday, BSG Thursday, Tunica Friday

Wednesday, June 13th, 2007

Dear friends,

I please keep the discussions going. I’ll be tied up most of the rest of the week, but I’ll check in occasionally. I’ll be meeting Michael Behe, Kurt Wise, Gordon Wilson, Tim Brophie, David DeWitt, Paul Nelson, etc. etc. this week…There is the big Discovery Institute event today in DC, and the Baraminology Study Group (BSG) tomorrow in Lynchburg, Va and more activity for me in Tunica Mississipi this weekend….so I’ll hope you’ll excuse my sporadic participation until next week.

We are getting offers from authors and contributors. I will also seek top talent from both sides to offer articles. I’d like to thank everyone for their participation, especially the adminstrators who are helping rebuild the website, weblog, and discussion forum.

“Scoundrel? Scoundrel…I like the sound of that”

Monday, June 11th, 2007

Here’s my take on a USA today poll which shows 66% accept a recent creation of humans: “Scoundrel? Scoundrel…I like the sound of that”

DI Herculis anomaly may support Setterfield cosmology

Thursday, June 7th, 2007

[Advanced Creation Science Topic]

In Criticism of CDK from brother Stephen J. Cheesman, I was confronted with some of the sobering difficulties of a particular YEC Cosmology known as CDK (speed of light decay). In that discussion, the topic arose as to what would constitute an empirical support or refutation of Barry Setterfield’s ideas.

It appears aerospace engineer George Sanctuary independently derived a time-dilation equation and found several anomalies that appear to support the Setterfield cosmology.

GENERAL RELATIVITY or NEWTONIAN TIDAL EFFECTS?

1) Quite surprisingly, the derived nominal tidal effects model duplicates general relativity precessions for all celestial bodies in the solar system. However, for two binary stars, (DI Herculis and AS Camelopardalis), GR predicts double the measured orbital precessions, while the NTE model duplicates the measured values.

Nominal Tidal Effects (NTE) combined with the Hyperbolic Creation Model (HCM) described in this paper offer a reasonable alternative to a universe cosmogony which is explained using general relativity (GR). The HCM cosmogony is heliocentric (sun-centered), as also is the well-known background Red Shift. The cause of the Red Shift frequencies could be a decaying transit super-speed of light. Finally, the possibility that the age of the universe is just a few thousand years has been demonstrated.

To understand a bit more, see Einstein’s nemesis: di herculis

DI Herculis is an 8th-magnitude eclipsing binary about 2,000 light years from earth. These two young blue stars are very close — only one fifth the distance from earth to our sun. They orbit about a common center of gravity every 10.55 days. So far, no problem!

The puzzle is that, as the two stars swing around one another, the axis of their orbit rotates or precesses too slowly. General relativity predicts a precession of 4.27°/century, but for DI Herculis the rate is only 1.05°/century. This does not sound like a figure large enough to get excited about, but it deeply troubles astronomers. D. Popper, an astronomer at UCLA, says:

“The observations are pretty clear. I don’t think there’s any question there’s a discrepancy and, frankly, it is an important one and it’s unresolved.”

The solution may be a Young Cosmos and YEC CDK cosmology.

[Note: I'm on vacation till Monday, June 11, 2007. Sorry I can't joint the fun for a few days. ]

ANNOUNCEMENT: MAJOR WEBSITE(S) OVERHAUL

Thursday, June 7th, 2007

Please visit this thread for continuing announcements. I will keep this first post in the blog updated with the latest information.

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good creationist vs. bad creationist

Monday, June 4th, 2007

For those who have been in the church for a while, and who read about the church in scriptures and in history, we know that ongoing flaps between church members is nothing new.

There is now apparently a holy war, dare I say, “holier than thou” war betwen two Young Earth Creationists organizations, AiG and CMI. I have no intentions of taking sides in the AiG-CMI holy wars, except I point out, it’s ulikely both sides can be completely right in this dispute. Each side claims to have conducted itself “biblically”. [See: Biblical battle of creation groups.]
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another creation science museum opens July, 2007

Monday, June 4th, 2007

We heard a lot about the creation science museum which opened in May in the USA. Another one is opening in July in Canada!!! Canadian Creation Science Museum Makes Front Page News. Check out the video!

(HT: Crevo at Baraminology weblog)

Why the Big Bang needs VSL theory

Friday, June 1st, 2007

See this article by David F. Coppedge The Light-Distance Problem

“Supporters of the Big Bang have no cause for pride, because they have a light-distance problem, too! It is called the horizon problem. And it is serious.”

One solution was offered by secular cosmologist Paul Davies, and that was varialbe speed of light (VSL):

Are the fundamental constants of nature really constant?

“The leftover glow from the Big Bang, known as the cosmic microwave background (CMB), has been observed in great detail. It shows that the entire observable Universe was once at a common temperature. This poses a conundrum because large sections of our observable Universe have never been in causal contact – they have never been able to communicate because light moves too slowly to have crossed the distance between them. If they have never been in contact with each other, how do opposite sides of the observable Universe know what temperature to be? ….But what if there was another solution? What if everything was in causal contact because the speed of light was faster in the past?

Creation Safaris, Inspiration for Young Cosmos

Friday, June 1st, 2007

The Creation Safaris Website was a primary inspiration for this website. Many of the articles there are wonderful. I established this site to provide a place to discuss articles from Creation Safaris.

Visit: www.CreationSafaris.com

Let me know if you want to star discussion on any articles you find there.